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Post by brandoniwanyshyn on May 25, 2016 4:02:42 GMT
19: C
20: C
21: D* In Canadian rules, any turnover results in the clock starting on the snap. For IFAF does this only apply if B is awarded the first down? If A turns the ball over, then gets it back again, is the clock on the ready signal if he is tackled in bounds?
22: D
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Post by bojan on May 25, 2016 6:19:41 GMT
@kim: Agree, thx!
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Post by Kim Larsen on May 25, 2016 6:23:32 GMT
In Canadian rules, any turnover results in the clock starting on the snap. For IFAF does this only apply if B is awarded the first down? If A turns the ball over, then gets it back again, is the clock on the ready signal if he is tackled in bounds? Yes, in IFAF rules (and NCAA I think) the clock only starts on the snap if B actually gets to snap the ball. And it doesn't matter if the team B player is tackled in bounds or out of bounds (even when there is less than 2 minutes remaining of a half), as that rule only applies to team A ball carriers. |
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Post by Laurent Dubreuil (Larry) on May 25, 2016 15:01:06 GMT
As I said earlier, I didn't get any questions, so I try to participate a little by doing some of them anyway  Bojan, I don't agree with question 47. Because it's a forward fumble, it should be brought back to the spot of the fumble, which is in the endzone, so I'd say "C", safety. Laurent, I don't agree with you in question 26. When it is a B player that carries the ball out of bounds, but team A gets it back because of the DOF, it doesn't matter whether it's inside the last 2 minutes or not, the clock will start on the ready for play. Thanks Kim for the correction. In our rules, this would result in starting on the snap since it would give an advantage for team B to commit a foul. And time would just run off at some point... I found it in the rulebook: e. Starts on the Referee's Signal. For each of the following reasons, the game clock is stopped on an official's signal. If the next play begins with a snap, the game clock will start on the referee's signal: 1. Team A is awarded a first down, either through play or by penalty. Approved ruling: III. Third and four. Team A's pass is intercepted by B1, who is downed inbounds. B2 was offside during the play. RULING: Team A's ball. First and 10. The clock starts on the referee's signal. Although the clock was stopped to award Team B a first down, Team B will not next snap the ball. So the answer is START ON REFEREES SIGNAL |
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Post by Bill LeMonnier on May 27, 2016 12:22:34 GMT
Some good debates on several questions... that's the real purpose of doing something like this. It's not to show how smart you are but how much smarter we can be, how we can step up and challenge, how we can be a team and grow together.
Here's my input to several responses... If I missed one or two that are debated, let me know and I'll take a look at them. I believe one question had a touchback on a kickoff going to the 25 yard line... IFAF rules put all touchbacks at the 20-yard line. Also... waiting for the last 5 questions to be answered... I asked Kim to take these if Bernhard is tied up and can't get to them.
15. C... Just an incomplete pass; no foul for illegal touching. Receiver had out of bounds status when he touched the pass.
16. D... Legal play by the Team A receiver to touch, catch the pass... the pass was tipped by a Team B defender... all Team A players now become eligible.
17. B... When the pass is tipped behind the line, the pass by rule is considered not to have crossed the line of scrimmage even if it physically crosses after the tip. Hence, no automatic first down for the D-Holding.
20. A & B... Unlike the NCAA, IFAF allows for shortened quarters AND a running clock with a 34+ point spread. The shortened quarters are prior to the 2nd half starting & w/coaches' agreement.
22. C... Whether you contact a coach or have to run around him, by rule this is a 15 yard penalty at the succeeding spot. That said, I would trust that if no contact was made that you have the communication & game management skills to handle this WITHOUT a flag.
26. B... Clock starts on the ready for play.
42. C... Play clock is set to 40-seconds.
47. C... Safety; forward fumble OOB is brought back to the spot of the fumble, in this case the EZ. Play results in a safety. Note... on this play with the interception at the B7; the momentum rule wouldn't apply anyway. Team B must carry the ball out of the EZ or it's a safety.
78. D... Foul by rule; technically your feet need to be on the line or within 5 yards. If you see a player line up this way... FIX it before the kick... FIX it before signaling the Referee for a ready for play whistle... whenever possible don't start with anything other than 11 players; minimally 4 players on each side of the ball being kicked; and everyone but the kicker within 5 yards. It's a nit-picky foul and a game interrupter... fix it before a ready... if the ready is given and the team now has 12, only 3 on one side or violates the 5 yard depth rule then it's on them but most of these are preventable.
82. B... Safety; forward fumble OOB is brought back to the spot of the fumble, in this case the EZ. Momentum is off due to the ball leaving the EZ into the field of play... Play results in a safety.
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Post by Endre Breznay on May 27, 2016 13:37:40 GMT
Hi all, here`s my part: 5-A 6-D 7-C 8-B 5 - B for me, under rule 8.4.2.b. (AR 8.4.2.VII.) Anyone agree? |
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Post by oyvind on May 27, 2016 13:51:55 GMT
Hi all, here`s my part: 5-A 6-D 7-C 8-B 5 - B for me, under rule 8.4.2.b. (AR 8.4.2.VII.) Anyone agree? I agree With Endre. |
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Post by blair100 on May 27, 2016 14:01:49 GMT
Hi, here are my answers:
51 a) rule 3-2-3.a.1
52 c)
53 b)
54 b)
55 c) (AR 3-4-4)
Benni
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Post by Bill LeMonnier on May 27, 2016 14:28:05 GMT
Hi, here are my answers: 51 a) rule 3-2-3.a.1 52 c) 53 b) 54 b) 55 c) (AR 3-4-4) Benni Benni... thank you sir !!! Right on the money. Bill |
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Post by Mario Matos on May 27, 2016 15:39:04 GMT
Hi all, here`s my part: 5-A 6-D 7-C 8-B 5 - B for me, under rule 8.4.2.b. (AR 8.4.2.VII.) Anyone agree? I agree with 5-A, the AR is correct and the answer is: [...]RULING: (a) Team B’s ball, first and 10 at the B-17; I think that the key point here is that the ball was not declared dead beyond the LOS. |
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Post by Bill LeMonnier on May 27, 2016 15:52:13 GMT
5 - B for me, under rule 8.4.2.b. (AR 8.4.2.VII.) Anyone agree? I agree with 5-A, the AR is correct and the answer is: [...]RULING: (a) Team B’s ball, first and 10 at the B-17; I think that the key point here is that the ball was not declared dead beyond the LOS. If the kick were dead beyond the NZ, untouched by B... then B would put the ball in play 1/10 @ 20 or if the kick/snap was outside the 20 at that spot. This kick crossed and came back behind the NZ untouched by B... it's just a scrimmage kick... I agree with Rafael's answer. 8-4-2-b-3... If the ball crosses the neutral zone, is untouched by Team B beyond the neutral zone, and is declared dead behind the neutral zone, all rules pertaining to scrimmage kicks apply (AR 8-4-2-VII) |
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Post by Kim Larsen on May 27, 2016 20:50:38 GMT
I know it's risky, but I'm going against you Bill I think you're referring to the NCAA rulebook, as 8-4-2-b-3 doesn't exist in the IFAF rulebook. 8-4-2 was changed in NCAA in 2015 I believe, and the IFAF rulebook adopted only a simplified version, not including 8-4-2-b-3. So I believe that in IFAF rules, the correct answer would be "B" (B-20). A.R. 8-4-2:VII is almost identical to the question, and that approved ruling is different in the NCAA and IFAF rulebooks, because of the simplified version of the rule in the IFAF rules. |
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Post by Bill LeMonnier on May 27, 2016 21:06:53 GMT
Kim... good catch on the IFAF differences to NCAA. I stand corrected... It's not risky... it's exactly what I want you and everyone else to do especially on the field. Nicely done.
Bill
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